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guest27

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the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« on: September 03, 2016, 07:17:18 pm »
here we shall decide how the war ends and the peace that follows. i think we should open with what we would have done if we kept RPing. try to keep it as basic as possible please.

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guest28

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2016, 07:50:05 pm »
Melon approves of getting this war over with.

Anyways, so far it's mostly been a defensive war, with the Vanians on the attack losing a lot of crew. I think that if we kept RPing, Vania would have lost a lot of soldiers but gained some ground eventually. Though I think that once Vania starts running out of steam to fight on all of those fronts, he would eventually face a combined offensive from the larger concordant. That sound accurate?

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2016, 08:05:50 pm »
well, before we decided to skip the war, i had already pulled back to act defensively for awhile, and i still had over 3/4 of my navy crew left. in addition, i had hired the mercs from gren, which means i could have gone for even longer.

furthermore, i was engaging in a very large Drone strike campaign against you, which would have caused very large damage to your industry and resources.

which brings me to something many of you seem to have forgotten: the material cost. your guys ships are much more expansive and resource intensive, so while you have destroyed more ships then i have, the cost to you, and your ability to replace them, could pose a chance to defeat you outright. at the very least, you guys face very large economic disruptions and depressions from the cost of the war by the time i ran out of ships, and you guys could start pushing into my own space. while on the other hand, i went through very large stockpiling, and can produce my own war materials at a much lower relative cost, meaning any damage to my own economy would be at very worst minor, at least until the second phase when you were on the offensive.

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2016, 08:23:58 pm »
True, but even then I still have a massive amount of troops left as well. Since you're fighting on multiple fronts as well, you've lost far more than me.

You forget a few things. First, you're only hitting my border systems, which only really exist to act as buffers. Even the mining locations are mostly mined out, with the actual sources of metal being deeper and further from the places you're actually attacking. And from reading your factbooks, your drones aren't very tough. They could ripped to shreads by faster firing weaponry, like those on my corvettes. You've probably lost in expenses for providing enough drones to actually do damage than I have in replacing some power packs for those weapons and the occasional damage to places we don't have a big investment in.

That second phase wasn't actually that far. In fact I probably would have gotten to it by now, but I'm drowning in work IRL (like I've said many times), so I don't really want to go starting things I'm not sure I'll be able to keep up with. And you aren't the only one with big stockpiles. I've mentioned many times before the war how Excave has plenty of materials in storage, mostly for bragging rights but also in case of war. You overestimate how much damage you've really done to us, as most of Iammelon is just business as usual with more defense fleets ready.

But I feel like we should try and get some other opinions in here before continuing. Not much point if it's just us two.

guest27

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 12:00:49 am »
Well, how you talked about them made it sound like they were way more important. Had I known this, then I would be switching to areas that actually were.

Also, I'm really, really sick of you guys just assuming my equipment is trash that your stuff can rip through easily. Yeah, the drones aren't that strong, but they aren't bad to the extent you think they are.

Furthermore, I feel that you are heavily downplaying my GFT. Either that, or vastly overestimating your own defenses. For you to have a lower cost then me would mean that your stuff is more then twice the power of mine, and I find this very unfair. You guys were always complaining about my GFT, but for some reason now you clearly think it doesn't matter at all.

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 12:18:16 am »
Wooo mah ULTI is live! Imma win everything! Eat my prediction software! I win this war with only one hand!

*Realizes I haven't installed it on anything yet ICly*

Uh..... back to my corner.....

guest97

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 11:16:17 am »
I believe that you're all forgetting the billions of mercs Vania hired from me.

guest27

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 12:43:00 pm »
well, that really wouldn't change the outcome of the war, just add to the damage. i'm vastly outnumbered even with all the mercs i hired.

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2016, 06:35:23 am »
well, i was just going to keep on being annoying in this war: you know, turning up every time you attacked, sending it hit-and-run squads to attack a military or economic target, that sort of thing. i don't know if i would have had an effect.

but i certainly would have annoyed you a lot.

guest27

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2016, 08:23:49 am »
isn't that what everyone else is doing, or would be doing, though?

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2016, 04:00:30 pm »
I won't take any causalities or suffer any consequences because I, for one, don't agree with ending this war in an OOC fashion. In fact, the idea is so abhorrent in my opinion that I'd much prefer that the war was voided instead if people no longer have the desire to keep on going.

guest27

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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 04:29:23 pm »
here's how i think the war should be:

the Vania Republic goes back and forth with the alliance, however as they are not receiving the aid they were promised by their allies, the Concordat is able to hold against them. ven the Drone warfare, while causing damages, is not enough to overly hurt the war effort.

eventually, the Vanians are forced on the defensive, and the Concordat slowly pushes them back, albeit at a relatively high cost of life, and seizes everything outside the capital itself.

in the peace deal, the Republic is greatly reduced and has much of it's power in the galaxy taken away. suggested terms are
the reduction of the armed forced to 1/8 of their prewar levels, and the ban from increasing it's size.

massive reparations on the Vania Republic, paying for the whole war on the Concordat side.

imposement of trade sanctions, to further hurt the Vania republic and aiding the Concordat.

seizeion of a number of tech, such as Vanian industrial technology.
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guest28

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 04:47:24 pm »
I see two things to do here:

I can see Dalek's point. One thing we could do is start the war over again, but this time plan out the battles OOC so that everybody is satisfied and nobody can complain about it being a war of numbers. And with that planning, we can also make sure more ground battles happen and everybody can enjoy themselves. The only problem is that we'd have to restart the war, and it would go much slower since OOC discussion would also have to happen as well.

The other is simply getting it over with now and being able to move on to other RPs. I think Vania's thoughts seem accurate, and I can make sure Concordant adjusts their own losses to make sure it ends up fair on both sides. Vania already put out his terms and losses, and Concordant in other ways like loss of life, infrastructure through drone bombings, and the such.

Either works for me.
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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2016, 05:24:47 pm »
Well, the outcome of the war will likely be the same anyways, as I'm fighting largely on my own. I'd rather just end this war at this point, and use this idea for the next war.
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Re: the Great War resolution anb Peace Agreement
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2016, 06:50:10 pm »
Alright, and with it you could get out of the war and your allies could continue if they felt like it.

 

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